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Great post. I believe everyone reading it would enjoy an Overton coffee and conversation.
Reply[…] P. D. Mangan just posted an analysis of Richard Overton’s interesting diet over at Rogue Health and Fitness: […]
ReplyMy guess here would be a major genetic component. While you highlight certain potential upsides of his lifestyle, it largely wouldn’t generalize…
This might interest you
Why is male life expectancy so high in Israel?http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2017/02/male-life-expectancy-high-israel.html
(spoiler: higher fitness due to army service)
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ReplyNice story. His active social life and laid-back attitude are the key elements for me. Booze and cigars might have those effects you comment, or alternatively be easily offset by good genetics if you don’t abuse them.
I am not much of a believer but I am also positive religious people are happier and probably live longer. It just gives you a lot of hope. A former philosophy teacher of mine used to say that when Marx talked about religion as “the opiate of the masses” he was not so much considering it an instrument of oppression -as it is often understood- but he meant a cheap way of forgetting about all the misery surrounding poor people (the wealthy would go smoke opium instead, hence the metaphor).
However what matters is quality of life and not so much longevity. As a kid I was terrified of dying young, now in my late twenties I am not so sure. When you look at it, we spend a great deal of our lives doing pretty menial stuff. I am not suicidal, but if I was told that I would die in a few months, provided that it wasn’t a painful death, I don’t think I would care that much. In fact, I would worry more about the suffering my family would endure rather than my own passing.
ReplyInteresting.
Didn’t Groucho MARX say that sports “were the opiate of the masses.”?
ReplyOscar, I’m coming closer to your view more and more. I must say, if I got a diagnosis of something really bad, like cancer, it would freak me out. I look on my fitness and anti-aging routine more as just an extended version of looking both ways before you cross the street; if it’s easy enough and will keep you healthy, then why not do it? Plus I want to be fit and look good. But otherwise, when my time is up, well, then it’s up.
ReplyThe fella’s an interesting case. Obviously, factor numero uno has to be his hereditary inheritance. I’m a believer that “genetics cocks the hammer and one’s lifestyle pulls the trigger (or not).”
As far as the IF thing, he is probably breaking his fasts with those shots of bourbon. 4 cups of coffee is indeed a lot phytochemicals but there’s no mention if he routinely will sink whiskey into his coffee, all 4 of them. If so, that’s more likely caloric restriction and definitely not IF.
ReplyThe quantity of alcohol is the question. If his shot of Bourbon is 1.5 oz and 40%, then that could be 100 calories or so per shot. But I’ve also read that alcohol is absorbed and metabolised pretty quickly, so its glycemic load might be gone pretty quickly. Unless, yes, it’s a shot with EVERY cuppa Joe…
Googling “insulin response alcohol” is somewhat interesting. Light – moderate alcohol consumption seems to increase insulin sensitivity, whereas heavy consumption increases resistance. And “while your liver is busy processing alcohol, your blood glucose drops.”
ReplyOscar almost got it right…a pleasant or brief dying experience would be a blessing. But Shakespeare’s Hamlet contemplating suicide saw it clearer….to die, to die….per chance to dream? For in that sleep what dreams may come when we have shuffled this mortal coil. Yep , Hamlet saw the hook…possibly existence in a real fiery hell forever…. after a brief journey on earth according to a reliable Book that most person do not read or believe. But what if true? Why gamble and risk going to hell when there is better choice and a real bargain: free eternal life insurance in heaven.
ReplyInteresting how many of his lifestyle habits go against conventional wisdom but seem to have worked for him. Of course he could be an outlier, but I doubt he would have lived that long if he followed the conventional modern American lifestyle.
Hopefully this will open up the Overton window on health discussion.
ReplyJust want to emphasize that Overton is a distant relative of U.S. President Andrew Jackson. I guess the cool just runs in the family.
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